While our country was under attack, Barack Obama did nothing *CHOKE*

thekinggovernor

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Aug 11, 2003
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Obama’s secret struggle to punish Russia for Putin’s election assault
Early last August, an envelope with extraordinary handling restrictions arrived at the White House. Sent by courier from the CIA, it carried “eyes only” instructions that its contents be shown to just four people: President Barack Obama and three senior aides.

Inside was an intelligence bombshell, a report drawn from sourcing deep inside the Russian government that detailed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s direct involvement in a cyber campaign to disrupt and discredit the U.S. presidential race.

But at the highest levels of government, among those responsible for managing the crisis, the first moment of true foreboding about Russia’s intentions arrived with that CIA intelligence.

The material was so sensitive that CIA Director John Brennan kept it out of the President’s Daily Brief, concerned that even that restricted report’s distribution was too broad. The CIA package came with instructions that it be returned immediately after it was read. To guard against leaks, subsequent meetings in the Situation Room followed the same protocols as planning sessions for the Osama bin Laden raid.

It took time for other parts of the intelligence community to endorse the CIA’s view. Only in the administration’s final weeks in office did it tell the public, in a declassified report, what officials had learned from Brennan in August — that Putin was working to elect Trump.

Over that five-month interval, the Obama administration secretly debated dozens of options for deterring or punishing Russia, including cyberattacks on Russian infrastructure, the release of CIA-gathered material that might embarrass Putin and sanctions that officials said could “crater” the Russian economy.

But in the end, in late December, Obama approved a modest package combining measures that had been drawn up to punish Russia for other issues — expulsions of 35 diplomats and the closure of two Russian compounds — with economic sanctions so narrowly targeted that even those who helped design them describe their impact as largely symbolic.

Obama also approved a previously undisclosed covert measure that authorized planting cyber weapons in Russia’s infrastructure, the digital equivalent of bombs that could be detonated if the United States found itself in an escalating exchange with Moscow. The project, which Obama approved in a covert-action finding, was still in its planning stages when Obama left office. It would be up to President Trump to decide whether to use the capability.

In political terms, Russia’s interference was the crime of the century, an unprecedented and largely successful destabilizing attack on American democracy. It was a case that took almost no time to solve, traced to the Kremlin through cyber-forensics and intelligence on Putin’s involvement. And yet, because of the divergent ways Obama and Trump have handled the matter, Moscow appears unlikely to face proportionate consequences.
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“It is the hardest thing about my entire time in government to defend,” said a former senior Obama administration official involved in White House deliberations on Russia. “I feel like we sort of choked.”
source: washingtonpost.com
no one could have seen the community organizer fumbling this
 

Buddyblazon

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If he had said something, Republicans would have absolutely gone apeshit bonkers screaming that Obama was lying and messing with the upcoming election in a partisan move.

Ask me how I know. Lol
 

Trebizond

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or hes a normal person that is capable of criticizing both sides. unlike some people on OT that like to wear red hats :o
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Buzz Killington

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...utin-election-hacking/?utm_term=.2791e3bb829f

Obama’s approach often seemed reducible to a single imperative: Don’t make things worse. As brazen as the Russian attacks on the election seemed, Obama and his top advisers feared that things could get far worse.

They were concerned that any pre-election response could provoke an escalation from Putin. Moscow’s meddling to that point was seen as deeply concerning but unlikely to materially affect the outcome of the election. Far more worrisome to the Obama team was the prospect of a cyber-assault on voting systems before and on Election Day.

They also worried that any action they took would be perceived as political interference in an already volatile campaign. By August, Trump was predicting that the election would be rigged. Obama officials feared providing fuel to such claims, playing into Russia’s efforts to discredit the outcome and potentially contaminating the expected Clinton triumph.
 
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thekinggovernor

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If you read the article, you will see that it was actually an incredibly delicate dance given everything that was going on, what Trump was saying, etc.
they were operating under the premise that Hillary was going to win, which is why so many Obama advisers are full of regret now. Allowing Donald Trump to dictate their response is beyond idiotic.
 

Buzz Killington

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I didn't agree with Obama but I never had the feeling that there were a bunch of morons running the show. He was, and is, a thoughtful, careful person surrounded by similarly thoughtful people.

The Trump circus is a shit storm of personality conflict, fear, ass covering, and mixed messages. There is no cohesive or coherent policy about anything. There are no first principles.
 

Buzz Killington

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they were operating under the premise that Hillary was going to win, which is why so many Obama advisers are full of regret now. Allowing Donald Trump to dictate their response is beyond idiotic.
"Obama officials feared providing fuel to such claims, playing into Russia’s efforts to discredit the outcome and potentially contaminating the expected Clinton triumph."
 

I-am-Ryan

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Aug 28, 2002
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I didn't agree with Obama but I never had the feeling that there were a bunch of morons running the show. He was, and is, a thoughtful, careful person surrounded by similarly thoughtful people.

The Trump circus is a shit storm of personality conflict, fear, ass covering, and mixed messages. There is no cohesive or coherent policy about anything. There are no first principles.
All of this is true.
 

Leonard Washington

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Aug 15, 2004
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“The Dems were, ‘Hey, we have to tell the public,’ ” recalled one participant. But Republicans resisted, arguing that to warn the public that the election was under attack would further Russia’s aim of sapping confidence in the system.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) went further, officials said, voicing skepticism that the underlying intelligence truly supported the White House’s claims. Through a spokeswoman, McConnell declined to comment, citing the secrecy of that meeting.

So Russia is Obama's fault, even though the GOP was the one keeping it from the public and said it wasn't even worth acting on?
 

Leonard Washington

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Aug 15, 2004
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they were operating under the premise that Hillary was going to win, which is why so many Obama advisers are full of regret now. Allowing Donald Trump to dictate their response is beyond idiotic.

Everything I've read said they feared that saying anything that remotely tied Trump to the Russians would look partisan and the country wouldn't take it seriously. Hillary/winning really has nothing to do with it. Obama advisers are full of regret now that its become apparent much of Trump's staff was in on it, even if Trump wasn't.
 

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