That the 'men' of my generation seem to be totally out of the loop when it comes to doing traditional 'man' stuff? I'm not talking about sports, they seem to have a grasp on that sliver of manhood... I'm talking about the things that my dad tried to teach us growing up (he only had 2 daughters, had no one else to teach the man stuff). It makes me sad to know that I know more about car maintenance (changing my own oil, how to roughly identify a problem before bringing it into the shop, etc.) than most 'men' ages 20-25 that I know. It's more than just car stuff too... it's basic maintenance things like replacing broken fixtures, basic pluming issues, minor electrical work, etc. What happened between our parents' generation and ours? Did the dad's drop off and not teach you guys like my dad tried to teach me? Or is it just irrelevant because men now think it's okay to just pay to have someone do it for them because our generation grew up so spoiled (for the most part) with no regard to the value of doing things yourself? Viper's note on women looking for a man like their father reminded me of how frustrated I get trying to find a man that actually knows how to be one. I know that's probably a "double standard" but I think that men should have a basic understanding of tools, car and home maintenance to be successful providers for a family. Just as women should understand the basics of child rearing, cleaning and cooking. Of course both sexes should dabble in both areas, it seems that a lot of men in my generation have just totally disregarded their side of things and never intend on learning them. Does anyone see my point? What do you think happened? Do you think that these guys will just have to play catch up later in life or will they never learn?