Discussion in 'Vaginarium' started by BrewCrew, Dec 10, 2007.
1. Nice guy is (very often) to socially useless men without drive or sex appeal, as BBW is to fattys.
Being nice probably isn't the only problem (or the problem at all)
2. Lots of guys think being nice is all they have going for them (which may very well be the case) and are nice to the point where its creepy/irritating, or we have no freaking clue you want us.
Because they're boring, timid, and needy.
try being yourself and doing what you want when you want it instead of hoping to one day being rewarded with sex or anything else for being nice.
strive to be a good man, not a nice guy.
Probably because nice guys never try; they wait for the girl to do everything and don't risk anything.
Only you have to live with your actions. Have a bit of self respect and others won't treat you like a doormat.
This is excellent advice, and a really important distinction.
From reading title i originally thought it was about nice guys not cumming before there partner lol.
You need to read No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover.
PM Me for where to find it
when i was younger i dated a nice guy. he treated me like a princess. it was nice... for about a month. then it got old. i wanted to buy him a spine. i thought maybe i just liked guys who were less than "nice". or that i was too young and immature to appreciate how great he was. but the fact is, he's still too freaking nice. you have to be able to hold your own in a relationship. if you're mr nice guy, and you do everything to make her happy, who's making you happy? there has to be give and take.
Because there is a line nice guys cross over a lot of times which has them almost pathetic. They let woman walk all over them, can be needy, clingy-everything a woman finds unattractive in a man.
My boyfriend is totally a "nice guy," but he's confident and doesn't let me push him around which is why I respect him unlike my other past boyfriends.
whoa, you just massively changed topics and incorrectly grouped two different types of people together. the rest of your post is correct
Having been the overly nice guy type in the past...it reeks of neediness and shows a lack of confidence.
I'm not saying you can't be a polite guy, but you shouldn't bend over backwards for her, shower her with compliments, suck up to her etc.
I used to try that way...it didn't work.
i knew few people who thought they were nice and couldn't be further from the truth
That book is really over the top stupid. I read it and I thought the author was dealing with mental patients more than real people.
This was one of the best books I've read about the subject of friendzoning.
I think everybody who posts in the Vag should read it.
I've read it, it is over the top, as in it is too agressive and too extreme.
I agree that it is cheesy. Its weird. I felt like a douche reading it. But at the same time, within the first 20 pages, I realized that I was doing absolutely every single thing that is symptomatic of a Mr. Nice Guy. And that alone was enough to make me see that I had a lot to learn about myself and a lot to change about myself and my relationships.
Im not saying this guy needs to read the book 5 times and do all the little projects inside. But I still think its an eye opener.
For people in the extremes that that author talks about I can understand if it is an eye opener, but it is still too extreme for the average man to read and say oh, I can learn a world from this book.
Side Note: I have read the book 5 times, not for more than the fact to see over time how it affects me and it actually becomes more and more stupid to read as time goes on.
Book of Pook we can agree on, the rest we shall not.
I would recommend it, if for nothing more than to sit there and laugh about it. The author was keen in his writings and what he wrote was very well written. It was a fun book.
Self help is pointless, it can help you at the start, but after that, you have to make an active decision to change things, otherwise it makes 0 difference what you do.
the good man vs nice guy was excellent wording.
there's NOTHING wrong with being nice, making a girl feel special, dishing out a few compliments. but the problem is "nice guys" typically have a handful of attatched unnattractive personality traits