I got these from a good friend of mine who use to date an army guy. They are sold AS IS and will be shipped packed well for shipping. I have zero use for them, and have been packed away since I got them a year or two ago. Any other photos can be provided upon request. One is a Ceradyne Apex Type 1, medium, 09/04 mfg date. The other is a Armorworks, 12/02 Mfg date, same thing, Medium, SAPI insert. 150$ for the pair shipped.