ok to sum it up i have a bad Hitachi v78 drivei got a brand new v79 to try to do a no flash drive swap my results v78 : would say reading for like 5 secs and not even spin up the disc v79 not flashed so it doesnt have the correct key : would spin up the disc and just say reading forever and never load the game when i swapped the v78 board into the v79 body it did the same thing it wouldn't spin up the disc and it would only say reading for like 5 seconds. im assuming this means the the board that is bad and not the drive??? im downloading jungle flash now and have ordered a esata to sata cable so i can flash with my vista laptop which has a esata on the side of it i know i have to try to pull the key off the v78 drive what is the likely hood of that ??? and if i can get the key what do i need to do to flash that to a v79 drive? i also read on another forum that to be able to flash a v79 you have to unlock it with a special cd ?