I am sure you guys have talked about this before and I'm sorry but I can't use the search function as I don't have a paid membership here. But I was wondering if this stuff is any good? http://www.xyience.com/?main_menu_index=mod_content&mod_content_action=content_main&mod_content_content_id=517&store_app_state=4bc4b05a432fb26cc0b04bd6f3249899 I took it the other day and wasn't sure if there was a difference but I definitely squated more than I had done before. Again if this has been talked about sorry. P.s. I need an AIM buddy or PM or something that can talk to me about weightlifting online. If any of you want to take a n00b under your wing let me know heh.