Yahoo's 10 Evolutionary Reasons for Why Men are From Venus, Women Are From Mars

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  1. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    Sometimes there are general societal claims made in the vag, that people refer to authoritatively, because they are supported by the field of so-called "evolutionary psychology."

    In short: evolutionary psychology - the field - is about as grounded in logic as a religious narrative. Links between the claims made in the field of evolutionary psych and actual Darwinian selection are highly tenuous.

    Back when we were still in possession of demosnat, these evolutionary psych style statements would come up a lot. They were truly retarded, but she was a cute girl, so we gave her an easy time of it.

    More recently I seem to recall other posters bleeting implicit support of evolutionary psych.

    Happily, a book just came out from a geneticist lampooning the field of evolutionary psychology better than any argument I will ever make in the Vaginarium.

    This is just an enormous pet peeve of mine :rant:

    :)

    Next time some pseudobiological pop psycho bullshit bubbles up on "Yahoo's 10 Evolutionary Reasons for Why Men Like Sex, Women Like Drama," we can actually point to the arguments tidily collected in this book :wavey:

    FYI - IWYWB - I'm making this thread preemptively so that the next time one of these idiotic comments comes up I can just post a link rather than rehashing. This peace-loving, fuzzy, and adorable thread is indirectly related to giving advice, so please don't break it's hard-working little heart by locking it.

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    haargerman ayuh.

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    Didn't they also give us Jim Carrey? :bigthumb:
     
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    haargerman ayuh.

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    Not to mention Avril & Pam Anderson.
     
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    not to mention Neil Pert, or Tegan and Sara
     
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    tegan and sara :bowdown:

    I have a few things to say but ifl I don't have time right now :hsd:
     
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    Deborah Seeing is believing, but I don't want to know.

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    :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: to this thread. I'm tired of people using evolutionary psychology as a fact like they know shit about it.
     
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    it just isn't science... Nor an extension of it.

    But I am disappointed no mention of Canadians in ur post :wtf:
     
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    Thread made of win. About time someone called out that bullshit. :bowrofl:
     
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    don't worry xapu!m, not everyone hates on your motherland

    I love Canadians and Canada, I'd totally live in Vancouver if I could, one of my favorite cities in the world :love:
     
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    haargerman ayuh.

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    My mom is from Ontario. Been there quite a few times. No hate.
     
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    haargerman ayuh.

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    yeah! you could totally be homeless and it would be socially accepted!

    ;)
     
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    :rofl:

    MY DREAAAAAAAAAAAAM

    No but seriously, Vancouver is incredible. I know they've had a lot of crime problems in certain areas, etc. in recent years, but the city as a whole is just... wonderful. Like I said, I'd live there in a heartbeat with no second thoughts if I could.

    But I feel like I'm muddying up my thread, my response to the original topic coming later when I have some time at work or something :run:
     
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    Deborah Seeing is believing, but I don't want to know.

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    :bowdown:very true! I wish it was just in a bigger city or something:o

    :bowrofl: All canada universities have lots of asians tho.
     
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    If this thread was directed at a few people I know, including myself, I'm just going to say most of my arguments here are rooted in evolutionary biology.

    Oh, and I'm sorry you guys have to live in Waterloo. If you change your mind about the right side of Canada to live in, I have a couch for the Olympics ($1000/week).
     
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    No, I don't remember specific transgressors, bbb. But I do cringe in advance at whatever relationship or dating advice that you may view as "supported by" evolutionary biology.

    The one I remember from demosnat was the imbalance of sexual power or sth like that.

    "Biological natural selection," adopted to mean something completely vague and unscientific, is too pat an answer to a question that REALLY should be viewed in terms of memetics...

    Makes a mockery of the term science. Darwin rolls over in his grave.
     
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    Oh, none of my stuff was about the differences in the sexes, although there are many things supported by science on that topic (In terms of relationships). I was talking about things like the chemicals that we secrete that makes us fall in love disappearing after about 3 years. Probably so that the male in the past would stick around to help rear the child and protect it in that critical period before leaving. In modern couples, the real test begins after these chemicals subside and you find out how compatible you really are.
     
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    Oh.

    The "phase" part of the honeymoon phase was disproved - at least as a general, all-encompassing rule.

    Most people do fall out of love (which is what you are glorifying as the end of infatuation and the beginning of "real" love). A slim minority do not.

    You can find a link to the study somewhere.

    This however is more neuroscience than evolutionary psych.
     
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    Very few things in science as it related to humans are all encompassing. I could have said the vast majority but I assumed it was a given that some fall outside the norm.

    And I'm not saying they fall out of love with regards to many aspects of the term. I don't believe love is just that one chemical. It's just things get a lot more real once this chemical subsides and to many, it's a kick in the ass. And I believe there is a longitudinal study going on (was 14 years in 2000 last I read) where the people can predict the success of a relationship with 93% accuracy after a very short time of talking with the couple and observing their reactions to the tests. None of the factors has to do directly with the chemicals present in the brain.
     
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    good to know
     
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    I think the most important factor by far was that they had similar styles of conflict resolution.
     

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