Discussion in 'That'll Buff Right Out' started by chrislehr, Jul 1, 2001.
Scott -- ever used this stuff? Any words of wisdom?
Works best on lite colored cars. Surface has to be PERFECTLY clean there are no cleaners in it. THIN coats are the way to go. You can apply it to any part of your car. Works great on wheels.
Zaino on my GSR...
1994, original paint...
Hands down the best car care products I've ever used, and I've used pretty much all of them! So easy to use, once you have the surface prepped, which is the hardest part. You need to use a clay bar to be sure it's completely clean.
Lasts a long time, great shine, no residue whatsoever. Kinda pricey, but a little goes a long way.
On dark colors, it gives more of a mirror like reflectivity, rather than a deep wet gloss look (at least in the sun).
I've never used Zaino, running a business and dealing with mail order is a bitch; I've got a Meguiars distributer (their Body Shop Professional line) near me and since I buy in bulk, I save a lot of money. A gallon of Meguiars High Tech Yellow Wax #26 is about $28 or so.
I've heard Zaino is pretty good, although it can be time consuming the first time you use it-but some guy did a side by side comparison on www.autopia-carport.com/forum and the shine was pretty much the same, but he didn't test for durability and given that Zaino is a synthetic wax, it should last longer. If you hate to wax your car, then you would probably prefer a synthetic wax. Personally, I don't mind waxing my car, and I think a carnuba based wax (like #26) gives a wetter shine.
This is the trunk lid of my 1990 Accord, taken about 2-3 months ago, and yes, that is the original paint. I usually use Meguiars Hand Polish (Body Shop Pro line) and #26 wax:
A view of the roof of my car, and again, the paint will be 12 years old in January:
Zaino is great stuff.
This is the hood of a 68,000 mile 1997 Firehawk...
I use Zymol or the good Meguiers on my beamer, i wouldnt use anything else.
I use only Meguiars on my cars. Heres a pic. Original paint, from my 1991 NSX, non-daily driver of course.
Zaino is the bomb!
the only ppl that say that its harder to use are the ones who ahve never tried it.
the first time that you use it you have to wash the car with dawn dish soap first. also the longer that you leave the polish on before you buff it off the better. i know some guys that leave it sit like 24hours. so yea, it _can_ be more time consuming, innitially. but after 8 months when you can just wipe the car down with Z-6 (quick detailer) and it looks like you just spent 3 hours washing and waxing; you will agree that it wsa worth it.
the other nice thing about Zaino is that every time you wash the car you can just add another coat. the more coats you have the better it looks, and protects.
Zaino has a new product out called ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive. its supposed to make the paolish even easier to apply and also longer lasting.
not to sound like too much of a sales man, but i gurantee that if you use the Zaino line from start to finish you will not be disappointed.
the review that was posted is kind of misleading for a few reasons. #1 the author admits to being biased toward another wax, and also they did not use the Zaino system, just a Zaino product. see, all of the Zaino products were designed to be used together. its not that one cant be used alone, but you will see much better results if you use the einthire system.
www.thewaxtest.com did a test on about 40 waxes, and Zaino, PS212, Collinite and Meguiars #26 were the top rated waxes. Any of them will do fine. Zaino will last longer because it a synthetic wax, but as many of the users have said, initial application is time consuming and expensive to get started (buying the entire system). If you are using it for your own car, it might be the way to go if you want to spend the money and have the time for the initial application, but for my detailing business, it just takes too long, and I have customers who want me to wax their cars often, no matter how durable the wax is.
maybe you could get that fatty in your avitar to help ya out ;P
seriously tho i think that your customers would be very happy with Zaino. it would save them money getting waxed once or twice a year compared to 6 or 8 or 10 or whatever they have you do now.
if they insist on having waxed every month then they are some of the strangest ppl that i have ever heard of. ignorant to the fact that they dont need to be waxed that offten, and they also must have money to burn. but the strangest thing is that they care so much about their cars that they waste a ton of money on them doing things that dont even help... and tehy dont even wax the car themselves........ you must live in some yuppie suburbs or something
Boba-with the incredible amount of time it takes to apply Zaino for the first time (compared to regular waxes), most people are just not going to pay $200+ for a wax job. It is hard to justify the drying times of some of the Zaino products, and the fact that I would have to charge for the extra time. Maybe the accelerator helps speed the drying time, I don't know. If someone wants to pay me to wax their cars every two weeks or once a month, I would be nuts to discourage that. If they are willing to spend the money, I am more than happy to take it-especially since they are happy with my work.
In any event, I hate dealing with mail order, and Sal doesn't take credit cards. I have a Meguiars distributer near me, they either have what I need in stock or can get it the next day. so the convience there is also a factor. So is price-a gallon of Meguiars #26 is under $30 and will wax about 300 cars. Meguiars also has a great line of surface prep products-their Body Shop Professional line is amazing and completely user friendly.
BTW, every car on my website was polished and waxed with Meguiars products. www.scottwax.com
Damn, the paint on that old Integra looks better than the paint on my brand new car!
Either Zaino really is good stuff, or Subaru sells their cars with inadequate paint jobs.
...or, I'm just seeing things that aren't actually there.
I'm gonna look into the Zaino stuff, but so far Meguiars has been more than adequate for me.
just look @ the name... btw... what color is that HOOD jrmcm? lol.... and roof, scott?
According to Honda, the official name of the color is bordeaux red, to me it is burgandy.
BTW, I saw a Zaino's display at the Dallas Autorama last month. They had a black Viper on display. It looked great, nice, sharp reflections, but it just didn't have the wet gloss of a carnuba. From what I gather on a detailing site I go to, that is pretty normal. Synthetic waxes like Zaino and Klasse have clear, sharp reflections and carnuba based waxes like Meguiars and Pinnacle have a real wet look. I guess you should go with which ever look you prefer.
Zaino has to be one of the worst products for professional use. It just takes too long to apply to the paint. If a customer wants to pay for all that time, then I'd do it, but it wouldn't be something I stock. I have synthetic waxes that'll get 2-3 months out of them easily with easy application for myself.
For an enthusiast only taking care of his car or a couple cars, then Zaino is great. Provides good protection, great durability, and can be layered. I'm actually thinking of getting it to use on my personal vehicle.
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I have Zaino on both my trucks and I do allot of traveling, what I can say about Zaino is its durable, long lasting and great looks. Four coats of Zaino holds up to 80 mph @ 100* temp /w bugs and a few hrs later high Sierra’s in a snow storm and still comes out looking great. The shine & the depth & clearest finish with distortion free look holds up week after week. Only thing that I can compare the durability is the Klasse twins but the depth and looks belongs to Zaino. Zaino is a polymer which is clearer then Klasse, Klasse is acrylic which is not elastic. Klasse you have to have a topper to make it look good, Zaino you don’t have a topper but looks even better having carnauba as a topper.
On the time it takes to apply Zaino for me is about 3 hrs for four coats (depending on the condition of the car) depending on the temp, humidity. I think it’s about 10 to 20 min’s between coats using the ZFX flash cure accelerator.
On making a living Detailing I have only had one customer that had a black suv that would pay the extra cost on having Zaino put on but he loves it.
Wow. No shit, nearly 4 years old!
Northpac-why are you shouting?
Since this thread was started, I have used Zaino as in Z2 Pro (thanks to ZaneO on autopia), Z6 and even the new Z8. Nice products, but I'm not sure I'd pay for them since appearance-wise, they just aren't any better (given equal prep) than any other quality product. Definitely lasts a long time though, 7 months on my brother's Odyssey.
Honestly, I am more interested in products that work great with a single application, not really into the layering fetish, although I normally go with two coats a few days apart on my own car with whatever wax or sealant I am playing around with at the time. Not real happy about the need to use (at extra cost) ZFX for the initial coat of Z2 Pro either. Mix too much and you waste it, mix too little and you have to mix up more and then wait 30 minutes before using it. For someone who doesn't mind the process though, you will get excellent results with Zaino.
Shouting....? me NA I can't type worth crap in the morning. I sometimes type in MS word and paste it to the forum. My GF always said I had bad grammer in typing I said to hear NA I had to meany beers.